So What's Yor Favorite Track Off Of The Box Set?



So What's Yor Favorite Track Off Of The Box Set?

Postby brentb » Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:29 am

I'm a typing blathering fool this morning. Now that it has been out long enough to give it several hard listens and to start to pick up the nuances in the individual tracks I'm curious to know who likes what the most on it.

I'll spout off that I favor disc #3, and find that the songs I most tend to go back to the book to see when they were recorded happen to be from their last sessons. But far and above the others my favorite single tune is My Fault with its great rolling base line. It gets the song going from a head nodder to a foot mover.
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Postby mcnarie » Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:51 pm

Damned straight, good call. But it's like favoring your own kids, right? "which is the best?"

What I love is that Mac redid the running order to be similar to a gig. The nuances are found in how they run together so well, not which song was recorded on which day of which year. It's remarkable how well Mac shoved 500 pounds of joy into a two pound box. No sex jokes, Ron Jeremy has yet to post, Still, for Mac to meet Hubert Sumlin after 35 years makes it a complete circle in many ways. Right, Lynne?
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Postby spanish face » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:58 am

When I get it I'll be able to say what are my faves!!!
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Postby jack Fate » Sat Aug 21, 2004 5:33 am

Very good question !

Favourite track...or track"S" ?

If I were to choose only one song, it would defenitely be "I came looking for you".
What a brilliant piece of music this is. Everything on this song is perfect : the melody, Ron's subtile vocal delivery and Ian's excellent playing. I love the words as well...

If we ever get the "I strum, you sing" album courtesy of Rod'n'Ron, then it would be a CRIME for them not to pay tribute to Ronnie Lane, covering "I came looking for you".
Can you imgine the picture ?
Ronald on accoustic guitar
Ian on piano
Rod on vocals
COME ON LADS ! Move your f...arses !!!

Now if I were to choose several tracks, obviously, in my case, I would take the new songs...:
- Come see me baby. Excellent delivery from his Rodness
- Gettin' hungry : amazing cover (I still haven't heard the original...), everything on this track is brilliant to my ears. I love the way the song is structured and the feel of the song.
- Rock me is very good as well. The Faces at their Stones impersonalisation best ! Shame the track is not finnished...If released, it could have been a hit !
- Jealous guy : whao ! Superb !

The two other songs I adore are live interpretations : Around the plynth and Love in vain. they're not new to me, but it is the first time I have the pleasure to listen to these gems with such a brilliant sound.

Come on Mac, give us MORE !!!!

Any one out there got any news about the forthcoming Rhino re-release of the Faces original albums with bonus tracks ???
I don't know if some of you are also into Elvis Costello ? Did you see what Rhino have done with some of his re-issue albums ?
AMAZING ! Take Almost Blue, for instance. When first put on the market, there were 12 songs on it...Now on the reissue, there are 27 bonus tracks (studio and live rcordings on a bonus CD).

Rhino ? Mac ? Any chance, the Faces albums get the same treatment ????
Oh, PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE !

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Postby mcnarie » Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:17 am

Mac has already expressed wishes for the complete line of CDs to come out, cleaned up for digital release, with bonus tracks added.

You may have noticed that the four CDs in the box set hold roughly 44.6% more music than the five disks the band released throughout their career. Not a bad deal, this box set, is it?
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Postby jack Fate » Sat Aug 21, 2004 9:08 pm

Hello There,

No, like you say, it is not a bad deal !

Mac did a FANTASTIC job and I'm sure we'll all be forever grateful to him...

Having said that, my only complain about the boxset are the doubles (Cindy, Stay with me, Too bad, Maybe I'm amazed etc...) whereas there could have been room for more obscure live songs like "I want to be loved" for instance.

I'm sure this will be all forgotten when we get the chance to purchase the official albums with more bonus tracks. It's all the more exiting when we hear that Mac has put his hands on 5 more rehearsal tapes !

I can't wait !

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Postby mcnarie » Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:20 am

I don't have any difficulty with multiple instances of certain tracks in place of lesser-knowns. One of the brilliant things about 5G is Mac lined up repeats of certain songs to show development. How better to understand the the dynamics of a band (or the shifts in dynamics, for that matter) than to see different ways by which they approach the same song? Particularly when you see a song develop from a jam to a demo to a full-fledged anthem?

One of the reasons 5G is getting such raves is that it breaks the rules set by prior boxes.

To go a step further, I'd love to see released a compilation of versions of Debris, for instance. Put in enough variances of Lane & Faces versions, plus a smattering of the brilliant covers done by hat-tippers, and you have one helluva compilation.

5Gs has the balls and brains to knock down rules and stereotypes of prior box sets. And it does it in style, and in trumps.
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Postby mcnarie » Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:28 am

I do have a box of various versions of McArthur Park, which I compiled myself. As McArthur Park is a horrid song, I gave it attention to showcase the depths our culture will go to to seem "hip". Nothing like covering a douchebag song simply because it's A HIT! Then, MP box ain't that bad, cuz plenty people covered it because it was SO BAD. They knew it was horrifically bad, and got in on the joke.

At least with my alledged Debris Collection (tentatively titled "Big Smelly Dump"), the song is worthy of the intent, like many a Dylan tune.
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Postby mcnarie » Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:31 am

mcnarie wrote:I do have a box of various versions of McArthur Park, which I compiled myself. As McArthur Park is a horrid song, I gave it attention to showcase the depths our culture will go to to seem "hip". Nothing like covering a douchebag song simply because it's A HIT! Then, MP box ain't that bad, cuz plenty people covered it because it was SO BAD. They knew it was horrifically bad, and got in on the joke.

At least with my alledged Debris Collection (tentatively titled "Big Smelly Dump"), the song is worthy of the intent, like many a Dylan tune.
And no mention of when it's been done b4 with "Stairway to Heaven".
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Postby brentb » Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:14 am

One of the best things about the CD format is that you can program whatever running order of the disc(s) that you want.

I've always enjoyed watching the Let It Be film to see the snipets of the songs being worked out and developed to the live versions at the end of the movie. A compilation of MacArthur Park could be countered with an equally brain hammering compilation of Yesteray. I might have parted with it but I had a Dewey Martin (Buffalo Springfield drummer) promo LP done after the band breakup that has him doing it as a big loud raveup; if Deweyhad been a famous TV actor it would have made it onto a Golden Throats set.

Dave - have you ever come across the gazillion disc set that Rhino released of the Stooges complete Fun House sessions? I read good things about it when it was released but when I got around to looking for it some time later found it was only a small very limited edtion. Tough luck.
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Can You Change "Yor" To "Your" in the me

Postby brentb » Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:16 am

That is really starting to bother me.
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Postby GimmeSumFace » Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:59 am

As of today my favorite is.............

Insurance

One of the most beautiful instrumentals EVER!!

Of course, how can you go wrong with these guys?

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Postby FacesFan » Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:19 am

For nostalgic and sentimental reasons only I have to say Maggie May. This version reminds me of when my Dad took me to see The Faces in '74(?) at the Philadelphia Civic Center at the tender age of 7!!!! I also remember them doing a blinding version of it on Don Kirshner's Rock Concert. I have always thought that their live version blows the studio version away.

I still can't help busting out laughing during the beginning of Jealous Guy though. It reminds me of some of my band's "exchanges"! Summing it all up though, I like every track and have been a fan of the Faces for I guess now over 30 years and it still sounds just as new. Kinda like Zeppelin. The music is timeless.

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Postby mcnarie » Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:36 am

sounds like, as a person in the band, all the in-jokes become clearer to you. Nobody knows what it's like, til you've been there. Y'know?
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disc 4

Postby nash bridges » Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:46 pm

hard to get over "around the plynth" into "gasoline alley". when they get back to the point of departure, the 'never knew what was to be loved'...wow...levels most zeppelin.
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Re: disc 4

Postby London Rascal » Thu Nov 25, 2004 11:18 am

nash bridges wrote:hard to get over "around the plynth" into "gasoline alley". when they get back to the point of departure, the 'never knew what was to be loved'...wow...levels most zeppelin.


Wot he said. :wink:
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Postby mcnarie » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:43 pm

The bits of audio bickering are great, as I only know the posh Kenney, not the gutturmouth found within the box.

Did anybody notice that half this stuff on the box is new material, and the box lasts almost twice as long as all their albums played back-to-back?

A Brilliant Bargain.

My fave current song off the box, as of this day, is "Maybe I'm Amazed", the BBC version of it off 1/11. I've got the video of that, and it ranks as sonically and visually one of Lane's best performances as a vocalist. An amazing sight, let me say. What fucking soul out of such a quiet mouth. Every time I hear it, I can see him giving birth to the word "LINE", like Buster Keaton (who died only a year or two prior) was in control of his face.

I've never seen enough footage of Ronnie Lane, but I know that his intro on this version of this song on this date ranks as one of the most clueless gifts to the rock archives. He was doing it off the cuff, it came off as brilliant, and it should make anybody that never heard of him before investigate. In a word: Brilliant.

In another word: Ronnie.
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Postby mcnarie » Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:21 pm

Brent- yes, I have the Fun House sessions. 5 disks, if my memory serves.
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Postby mcnarie » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:32 pm

Once again, the Box kills. It goes from Ronnie's brilliant take of "Maybe I'm Amazed", into Insurance, then into the demo "I Came Looking for You". I always knew that tune as "Innocence Gone". Then Mac spins "Last Orders Please", which is the raucous barroom version of the same tune that came out on the album.

Mac did it. A brilliant "SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN" trib to Ronnie Lane.

I know, it's one of many on this set. By throwing away the rules of regular boxes, Mac shoved more love and logic into these four disks than imaginable. It's a glorious thing, hearing Mac and Lane do a hotel room demo of one of Ronnie's songs in an early incarnation- and it makes perfectly clear Ronnie was already riding horseback when the rest wanted jets- then showing how that slow, somber thang went ballistic on the Faces Flying Cartwheel.

Not enough people realize Mac is the living heart of the band. He's on his own path, making records that rival Ronnie's solo efforts in both pure joy and enlightenment, and his creativity blossoms under the Texas sky. This box is pure from start to stop. It's light, it's dark, it's filled with both love and pain.

Good Goddamn, it's the Faces.

Thank you, Mac. For those that haven't heard or bought Rise & Shine, stop asking for a Faces reunion. You won't care about that crap once you hear Mac shine. Mac has moved on, and he improves with the wisdom he has picked up off the hard road. Can you move forward? All you have to do is Rise & Shine.
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Postby Lynney » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:05 am

mcnarie wrote:For those that haven't heard or bought Rise & Shine, stop asking for a Faces reunion. You won't care about that crap once you hear Mac shine.


This may sound strange, but it's so true. After seeing Mac & the Bump Band in Austin and the East Coast, it occurred to me we don't need a Faces reunion. This band is so tight. The spirit of the Faces is there and it's pure magic.
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Favoutie track

Postby Pete Coles » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:02 am

Come See Me Baby (The Cheater)

Why this got left off Ooh La La, I'll never know (the truth is out there... somewhere). I admit it's more Rod than Faces, but with a little more polish, it would have strengthened the album and could have been another single (still could, but again it would be a Rod thing).

Earlier stuff is good - Evil, The Stealer. Really good blues, if only... (NO! DON'T get me on to that subject!)

<Jimmy Saville mode on>Now then, now then, now then. <Jimmy Saville mode off>

I've been away for six months, and what's the main talking point? A Faces reunion! Good grief! The Faces were <b>30</b> years ago.

Commercially, there just isn't the demand for such a gig. For Rod, yes of course, but the reality is that the Faces would just be Rod's backing band, what ever the set list.

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Postby Guest » Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:17 am

I really like the whole album but several tracks come into my head.

Maggie Mae: released a few weeks after the original. Absolutly brilliant!!! I wonder did the faces ever do more different versions of this track?? I'd love to hear them!

Stay with me: I just love that BBC version killer rifts form Woody!! Great Guitarist. Imagine how much better that would have sounded if Jeff Beck was in the band as well?

Come see me baby(the Cheater) This should've been added onto the Ohh La La album shame they didn't.

Around the plyth/Gasoline alley: I JUST LOVE THAT TRACK!!! I'd be even happier if Ian Maclagan finds more examples of this type of Work by the Faces. Didn't the book that came with the Album state thet the Faces Played ''Around the Plynth'' with the Rolling Stone's '' Honly Tonk Women''? I'd love Ian to find that!!!!!

Insurance: Great Instramental!!

Mabye I'm amazed( BBC) Fantastic.....I'm Speechless here!!!

Jealous guy: The bickering and argueing beforehand!!!! Rod's voice shines out of this, He and ron Wood were the driving force in the Band!

Did the Faces ever do their own version of ''You Wear it well''? di The ever do their own version of ''Street Fighting man''? Did they ever do their own version of ''Dixie toot''?

I cant wait till the OHH La La sessions album is released...that'd be the Perfect Xmas pressie!! Has anyone got any wrd on any future Faces releases? Dates?
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Postby teddy brewski » Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:29 pm

The live version I believe is the same as the Sounds for Saturday video no?
Laney's vocals at the beginning ARE amoung his best ever and I almost do a double take looking for Paul.
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Postby boddingtons_nfld » Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:56 pm

Finally got the boxed set for Christmas (I live on the east coast of Canada and ordered it from Amazon.ca), and, as expected, I'm completely loving it. I love the fact that it'll take me days, months and even years to let it all sink in and fully enjoy. Early returns have some favorite tracks sticking in my head, including:

Jealous Guy (some of Rod's best vocals and the little row at the beginning is a hoot)
Maggie May - Live BBC 1971 (felt amazing hearing the early, raunchy rocked-up Faces version of this solo Stewart gem)
Maybe I'm Amazed (Live BBC 1971)
I Can Feel The Fire (Live 1975)
I'd Rather Go Blind (Live 1975) (Speaking of soulful vox from one throat himself...)
Gettin' Hungry (love it when the chorus kicks in every time...)
Rock Me
Stay With Me (Live BBC 1971)
Around The Plynth/Gasoline Alley (BBC 1970)
Love In Vain (BBC 1971)
Flying (BBC 1970)
...and the rest of the tunes....!!

Many thanks and cheers to Mac for giving the world such an amazing collection of Faces music presented so beautifully...
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Postby Julie » Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:42 am

Just got round to reading Christmas Eve's newspapers and saw Tim Burgess voted 5G as his favourite album of the year.

'I was fortunate enough to get my copy as a signed copy from Ronnie (Wood, ex faces guitarist), so that meant a lot to me before I even played it. I had all the original albums already, but hearing the outtakes and everything made me realise what a fantastic band they were. They were on fire, and nobody had a voice like Rod Stewart's. The haircuts, the ciggies, the clothes-so many bands have tried to base their look on The Faces. And any band with an instrumental called ' Oh Lord I'm Browned Off' has to be worth a listen.'

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