DAVE: Has it?
LANE: Oh, I know my pride has taken a bit of a
batterin, but I aint going to go that far.
DAVE: Are you getting your walking back, then?
LANE: Gradually. Yeah.
DAVE: From the treatments?
LANE: Yeah, from the treatments. I had a lot of
treatments in Florida, just before the tour. I had lots of oxygen, and it was that that
got me through because, uh
that tour was heavy goin, yknow? I think that
I proved that HBO works! I mean, for somebody with MS to get through that
DAVE: Proof positive, on its own.
LANE: Yeah. Absolutely! And theyre still having
an (argument) about it! Thats what amazes me!
DAVE: Still fighting it in their own, twisted
LANE: Yeah!! Weird. Very weird.
DAVE: Oh, yeah
Something that I found whilst I
(pulling out a recently purchased LP of One For The Road)
LANE: Oh! Yesss!
LANE: Theres a picture of your mum!
RUBY: Where? Where? (crawling onto Ronnies lap)
Wheres my mum?
LANE: There! Thats before you was born! You was
just a twinkle in my eye then!
RUBY: Wherere you?
LANE: Thats me, there!
RUBY: I didnt know you had new trousers!
LANE: New trousers? Theyre not new! Theyre
old! Thats an old boilers suit! Say hello to Salt Lake City!
LANE: Well, that was very dainty, Ruby! Cor!
That brings back some memories, I tell you!
DAVE: Like what? Because, Im going to be playing
it on the radio, so you might as well go at it!
LANE: Oh, well
(pointing to cover of album) We
made it in that barn, there. We recorded it on my mobile studio, there
DAVE: Is that at your farm up in Wales?
LANE: (Lost in thought) Huh? Yeah! Thats the
farm up in Wales.
DAVE: With all the sheep?
LANE: With all the sheep, yeah.
DAVE: Go ahead and list off some of the songs there
that you really like.
LANE: What? Off this one? Well, lets have a
look. Its been a long time since Ive heard any of these.
Side two, "Steppin and Reelin,"
I wrote that on my bus.
Side two, track two, "Harvest Home," was a
number that I wrote for a lady called
who died. Her name was Mrs. Caulfield. She
lived down the road from my farm, and she died, and it was really weird. It was very hot
that summer, extremely hot. It was nighttime, and it got dark. Of course, in the summer it
gets dark very late. I went to a pub, and someone told me shed died. I couldnt
well, I could believe it, but it knocked me about a bit. I came out of
the pub and it was dark, and all of the tractors were coming up from the fields with their
lights on, and their carts all filled with hay, bringing the harvest home. I was just very
choked, and I went home and I wrote "Harvest Home". Yup.
On side one, "That Burning Summer," I wrote
that about that summer I was talking about. It was very hot.
"One For The Road" speaks for itself.
DAVE: How did you like working with Island?
LANE: Island Records? I didnt. I like the
fellow whos the guvner, who is that?
DAVE: Chris Blackwell.
LANE: Chris Blackwell, yeah. I like him, hes a
good fellow. But, the people who work for the company
I knew most of them when I was
in the Small Faces. They were teaboys for the record companies. Now theyre sort of
the heads of Island Records. They couldnt run a piss-up in a brewery, yknow
what I mean?
DAVE: Why dont you list some of the Faces tracks
that you really liked.
LANE: The Faces tracks
Well, I like "Memphis,
Tennessee." I like the way that came together, recording, too. We
(The kids start fighting)
(To the kids) OI! Oi! Im doing an interview!! Now, keep quiet,
please! This is Salt Lake City! Ruben! That means you, too.
"Memphis, Tennessee" came about
really didnt intend to do it. I started messin about with it on the bass,
I was playin my version of what I thought Lonnie Mack used to do it
like. And the rest of the band joined in and, all of a sudden, we just did it! Then, Rod
came in and sang it. It was one of those things that came about without thinking. I
like things like that. Spontaneous. It was spontaneous. I like spontaneous things.
Other Faces things
Cor, dear! I cant remember much of
DAVE: (laughing) Sure you can! You have to!
LANE: Yeah. "Cindy Incidentally,"
I like that.
DAVE: How did "Ooh La La" come
LANE: "Ooh La La" was an idea
of Ron Woods. I wrote the words to that. I was just entering my Hating
Women stage, you know? Loving them and hating them all at the same time. Ive
really been through that stage, as well! I never realized when I wrote the words to "Ooh
La La," how relevant it was. Very strange. Everything that I seem to write
either comes true or is whats whats actually happening, and I havent
noticed its whats actually happening.
DAVE: Youre subconsciously writing songs.
LANE: Yeah! I think Im sort of writing something
out of my head and, in actual fact, all Im doing is sort of writing down whats
happening, you know?
DAVE: Can you think of some other songs, then? "Stay
With Me," of course. Youd have to say something about that one,
considering it was the big hit.
LANE: Oi! Ruben! I asked you to be quiet!
Were making a recording to go on the radio in America! Lukie!
LANE: Leave him alone.
LUKE: Im not touching him. Hes
LANE: Sorry, what did you ask?
DAVE: "Stay With Me"
LANE: (Distantly) "Stay With Me."
Why did you ask me about that one?
DAVE: It was a big hit, for one thing.
LANE: Was it? The only thing I can remember about
"Stay With Me" is the bass line! (laughter)
DAVE: How about "Around the Plynth?"
LANE: "Around the Plynth." Now
youre getting right back into the early days! (Long pause)
LANE: Oh, "Debris" is
basically about my old man. Yeah, the Debris used to be
The Debris was down
not Petticoat Lane. Adjoining Petticoat Lane-- which is famous, everybody knows about
itis another market called Club Row, and that was all on Debris. People just used to
come out there with all their chuck-outs and flotsam and jetsam and spread it out on the
Debris, you know? And my father used to go down there every Sunday. Every Sunday morning,
hed take me down there and hed root around for hours in all this shit!
(Laughter) And, uh, it wasnt until I was in New York that I realized that I quite
missed it! I was feeling homesick at the time.
DAVE: Well, can you think of any other songs from your
long, illustrious career? Oh! How about "Rene"?
LANE: "Rene, the Dockers
Delight"? (laughs) Well, thats basically about a chick called Rene
Tungate, and its a true story, again. What more can I say? You listen to the words
of "Rene, the Dockers Delight," and
youve got it. I cant say no more than that! (Pause) She was an old
DAVE: Down at the Crown and Anchor.
LANE: Well, that was a bit of artistic license.
DAVE: Couldnt say the real one, could you?
DAVE: That would make it too true?
LANE: We didnt know at the time. We werent
drinkers. We werent drinkers at the time.
DAVE: Good album, that was, Ogdens Nut.
LANE: Ogdens Nut Gone Flake.
DAVE: I always thought that was kind of odd, because
Ogden is where I live.
LANE: Oh, yeah? Well, thats the name of a
tobacco company over here.
I mean, the idea of Ogdens Nut Gone Flake was,
if they ever legalized marijuana and the tobacco companies put it out, thats what it
would be kinda called. We thought of a good name for a brand of marijuana,
"Ogdens Nut Gone Flake. Thats good stuff! It makes your nut
DAVE: Would you call the early Rod Stewart albums
just, simply, Faces albums under an incorrect moniker?
DAVE: Do you think of them as Faces albums rather than
Rod Stewart solo albums?
LANE: Not really, they were Rod Stewarts all
right. I actually think that they were sort of
There were things that Rod, if
hed been worth his salt, should have saved for Faces albums. But, it became obvious
to me after a while that Rod was saving all his good ideas for his own albums, and very
little for the Faces albums. I thought, "Ive been through all this
before. Steve Marriott left the boys right up the lurch, now Rods going to leave us
up the lurch. So, the only thing to do is, Ill leave first." Yknow? So
thats why I left the Faces!
DAVE: And once Tetsu [Yamauchi, who replaced Lane in
the FacesD.M.] got in, what was it, another year before it was all over?
LANE: It didnt last much longer after that.
DAVE: It shouldnt have.
Wasnt there some disturbance over Ooh La La,
once it came out? Rod slammed it in the press?
LANE: Oh, yeah!
DAVE: What was that about?
LANE: Rod slated it something rotten!
LANE: I dont know. Basically, he
didnt bother to turn up for it. So we carried on recording, and when he came in to
put his voice-overs on it they was in the wrong keys, and things like that, for him. And
he started complaining about this and complaining about that! And, if you ask me, if
hes gonna fucking complain he should have been there when we recorded
it, you know?!
So I thought, Oh!! Ive had enough of all this! Ive
been through all this with Marriott, now Im going through it with him. So, Ill
see if I cant get on without all these people!"
DAVE: Move on down the road
LANE: Yeah, right!!
DAVE: Did you like the album, though? I thought it was
a very good album.
LANE: Under the circumstances, it was a great album!
It would have been a lot better if wed had some assistance from Rod, I think.
DAVE: Well, at least you had Glyn (Johns) behind you!
LANE: We had Glyn behind us. Thats all we did
have! We had our exuberance for our band, and we had Glyn Johns! Thats what made it
a good album, if it is good album.
DAVE: Id say it is, definitely.
Why not mention some of your favorite solo stuff? If you can
LANE: Actually, I think one of the nicest little songs
that Ive put together, I dont think its been released in America. And I
dont think its on an album, either, because I was still in the naÔve sort of
way of thinking, "yknow, you shouldnt put singles on albums
thats a con!" (Laugh)
Thats how naÔve I was! Anyway, its called, "The
Poacher." Have you heard it?
DAVE: Oh, yeah! Sure! Its on albums.
LANE: Is it?
DAVE: Yeah. Its on Slim Chance.
[It was released on a special disc-jockey version in the US, which is what I
LANE: Its on Slim Chance, is it?
Well, I dont know how it got on there! It certainly didnt get on Anymore
For Anymore, did it?
DAVE: Say something about "Poacher",
then, because Ive got that.
LANE: Well, I like "The Poacher",
although, if I had the chance to do it all over again, Id like to do it all over
again! And Id like to try and sing it this time! Instead of wailing it.
Its a bit high, very high, and I was scared of singing it at the time. So I made an
excuse for it. But, in actual fact, its not a bad song.
Whats another song I like? Of mine? Have you got that, See
DAVE: No. Thats one Im looking for,
LANE: Cuz thats got a couple of nice things on
it that I like. So you cant play any tracks off of that, can you?
DAVE: Not unless I find it, which is possible. Give it
a shot! Ill find it someday, and I can use it then!
LANE: Right! Theres a track called "Aint
No Winning With Women." I told you about my "hating women" number!
I think that was my last "hating women" song. I love all women, now.
Theyre not nasty at all. Its me thats nasty! (Laughter)
And, theres also a number called, "Dont Tell
Me Now." I like that one.
DAVE: How did the soundtrack with Ron Wood come about?
[For the as-yet unreleased film, Mahoneys Last Stand, directed by
and starring Alexis Kanner, and also starring Sam Waterston-- D.M.]
LANE: It was just a friend of mine who was an actor,
called Alexis Kanner. He asked me if Id do it, so I said, "Yes, Im
interested. Lets have a look, see what its like." And, at the time, it
was a good movie. I read the story, and it was amusing. And then I saw some shots from the
movie, and I thought it had something.
So, I went to Ronnie Wood, and said, "you interested,
Ronnie?" And he said, "yeah."
DAVE: Was he with the Stones at the time?
LANE: No. He was with the Faces. We was both with the
DAVE: You did that in 1975, though. 1974?
LANE: Did it about 72, 73.
DAVE: Really? It didnt come out til
LANE: Well, I left the Faces in 73, and it was
in the can by 73. Yup.
Getting it finished, once Id left the Faces, was something
else because Ronnie was wooing the Stones at the time. And getting him to come down to the
bottom of his garden to work, to finish the album, was, uh
DAVE: Something just short of impossible
LANE: Absolutely! He would fly to Ireland to see Mick,
and I was up at the bottom of the garden, like! (Laugh) So
I intended to stay only a short time for this interview, as
Ronnie was obviously not feeling well. If I had been able to stay in the UK for another
week, we were to have met for a third time to do an some in-depth work on the years
1964-74. However, Id already stayed weeks longer than initially planned, and was
unable to extend my stay any longer. Two days later, while interviewing Simon Kirke at his
home near Kew Gardens, Ron Wood stopped by. While I was chatting with him, it didnt
even occur to me to mention having just seen Ronnie. I simply didnt think of
I spoke to Ronnie several times in the next few years, but slowly
lost contact with him after his move to Texas. Still, each time we spoke his spirit
never flagged, even if his health had. He always seemed to know of something around the
corner that might change his plight. My only wish is that there had been.